Nel: One of your major arguments with regards to the wound on the right arm is the secondary missile.
Nel :The forearm from the wrist to the elbow.
W: Yes, described as very small by Prof Saayman.
Nel: That, the, please have a look at page 27, photo 24. That is a white area that was affected by the missiles.
Nel: That is a white area.
W: Yes, if you look at the photograph.
W: My lady, the arm might have been a little bit further away.
Nel: So we have to put the arm further away from that white missiles.
Nel: So it is then possible that it could have been 55mm?
W: It could have been.
Nel: That would, would that affect your reconstruction that it was B?
W: My lady, I said there is splinters on the arm she must have been in the area of the door.
W: So that when that wounds were affected, was further away. It is very difficult to come to a precise conclusion as to what her position was behind that door.
W: We can't really say what happened behind that door.
Nel: Now, your evidence on E and F and the bullet core. If the deceased was on that magazine rack leaning forward towards the toilet, it could have hit her from E - F .
W: My lady I won't say it is not possible but then it would not have landed in the toilet bowl.
Nel: The toilet is such a small space.
W: If she was seated on the magazine rack, then she was facing her back to E and F, then she was actually in a skew position.
W: Then I would expect the bullet to travel that way to cause that injury but it would not have landed in the toilet.
Nel: The sound test at the shooting range on night one the forearm did not want to function correctly.
W: I think the specific gun was not very friendly for this type of ammunition. The ramp was not smooth enough for the bullet, The shape of the bullet it just doesn't want to function.
Nel: You see, I have been adviced. Isn't that specific firearm have a very short loading ramp?
W: I am not sure, it didn't function.
Nel: But you when you started, said that you worked on firearms.
Nel: It is possible that it was the bullet?
Nel: Is it possible that there was not enough gunpowder to push the bullet to turn?
Nel: Were they self-loaded?
W: It was given to me in a box.
W: It could have been old ammunition.
Nel: And you say you tried, how many shots did you fie that night?
W: I can't remember, we only had a few Ranger ammunition that I bought. Let's say 5 or 6 not more than 10 shots that were fired.
W: The gun didn't work, it just didn't want to operate.
Nel: So we can exclude that it was old ammunition.
W: I am sorry, it was fresh ammunition from a dealer.
Nel: Just before the tea adjournment we dealt with the striation.
Nel: It is a smooth surface, that would not have caused striations?
W: There must be something to have caused the striations.
Nel: If the marks on the deceased are caused by the magazine rack, she was low down. For her to get those marks she would have had to get up again.
W: I do not know in what position she was found. But the blood on the toilet indicates that her head was there.
Nel: But then none of the other bullets would have hit her.
W: My evidence was that she was still falling down when she was hit by the other bullets.
Nel: You have the reports by photographs, will you bring them so that we can have a look at them.