Nel: Now, do you see this triation marks on the left wound?
W: Yes, I saw it and I blew it up myself.
Nel: It is an exact replica of your core.
Nel: I know you want to disagree.
W: I will motivate it my lady.
Nel: You can motivate it as much as you want to. The striation here is the same.
W: My lady are you talking about this area here?
Nel: No I am talking about the striations here.
Nel: This core hit there and caused the marks.
W: You can show it to me and I will agree but I cant concede.
Nel: Hand me your photograph and I will show you.
W: The core or the other one?
Nel: My lady, I am going to make a mark on the photograph.
Nel: You see I am going to show you, sorry my lady I am just conferring with the people behind me.
Nel: You see, that the round rounded and uneven area on the core resembles that area.
W: My lady I am so glad that Mr Nel called it an uneven area because that area would have caused an uneven bruise.
Nel: I am not talking about the bruising area just that area. It hit there and caused the bruise is that not possible?
W: My lady, I cant see it, I can see the striations going through there I don't know what caused it.
W: I cant see the resemblance something there and the mark that you made on my photograph.
Nel: We must take it into consideration that she had a vest on.
W: If the vest was not pulled up.
Nel: What was your conclusion?
W: I think the vest was not pulled up.
W: If we look at the photo where she is lying in the foyer. You can see the two little marks, it could have been absorbed by the clothing and only those two came through.
Nel: Would you exclude the fabric of the vest?
W: My lady I have only seen photos of the vest, it is very strange. I have never seen it before there are definately striations there.
Nel: We can exclude the magazine rack as cause of the striation, coupled with the magazine rack it is possible.
Nel: My lady we have had a long stretch without a break may I ask for an early lunch.
Judge: You are still under oath?
Nel: You said it is possible to link all the bullet holes with the laser?
W: My lady I said if there was a deflection it was never taken into consideration. Through that door. Capt. Mongena said there was a possibility of deflection.
W: The laser, you have your gun, your target and the intermediate target. I only say it is a possibility, if you take a deflection into account.
Nel: So why would you say that Capt. Mongena is wrong if he indicates the laser through B corresponds with E?
W: My lady, I said a deflection was never taken into consideration.
Nel: Are you happy with the fact that Capt. Mongena took into account the height of the accused on his stumps.