Nel: If you are happy with the correct height of the accused in the firing position.
W: I am agreeing that if there is no deflection then it is possible.
Nel: But Capt indicated that there was no deflection, then he must be wrong.
W: I never said he was wrong. I don't say that it is not a possibility that B missed.
W: B is the only one that I can really, makes senses to me to cause that secondary wounds as she was collapsing. I have tried a lot of things.
Nel: Page 15 of your report, your measurements. If I interpret this correctly you are saying that the trajectory was upwards?
W: Yes, the way I have measured it, I have also used a laser. It has a horizontal and a vertical line. I took it right through the centre.
W: This is the way I have done it.
Nel: I refer to I as impossible. Let us just look at it, unless the accused moved closer and fired upwards by 2.5mm. That is what you have found.
W: It is not to say he fired from the normal firing position. He could have moved downwards.
W: That is line of sight, he can fire downwards and then I say that is possible to get the upwards trajectory.
Nel: The bullet hole is 104mm.
Nel: To be able to fire upwards, he must have really been lower.
W: Unless there was a deflection my lady.
Nel: Not in a door, how can it go upwards.
W: Doors were re-hung, probes were pushed through.
Nel: I saw it is wrong, but let's move on.
W: I think A is a bullet, I also said, my lady. Photo in my records.
W: I can't put m hands on it now but that photo is where the probes are in the body, it is an upwards trajectory.
W: It has an appearance of an upwards trajectory.
W: If you look at all the photos' of that the police took all show the appearance of the upwards trajectory.
Nel: Now, what I am getting at is you say in paragraph 19, page .
Nel: In regards to the above in deflection any bullet wound could have caused the mark on E. Have you done it?
W: I did my lady. I think if you go to the scene, my marks are still present.
Nel: So how did Capt. Mongena do it?
Nel: Did any of A, B and C end up at E?
W: I could link B very near to E, not into it but very near. I also saw that when the laser was used it was very clear but when you go to the other side the laser is very thin.
Nel: A laser, there won't be an angle.
W: I agree, there might be distortion.
Nel: Capt. Mongena was able to put the laser into the hole, you were present.
W: I was but I did not interfere.
Nel: Why then were you not able to?
W: Maybe the time when I was doing it the door was not hung at the precise, a degree out. It would, might also take a little bit away.
Nel: But you weren't bale to line the others? How close cold you get it to E?