W: It was only one shot. I had other things to do, I have other cases as well.
Nel: Any reason why you did not repeat the bat sounds on the 9th?
W: My lady, my ears are just not at that frequency. Everybody told me that there was frogs or crickets in the backgrounds.
Nel: Before you redid the tests, people told you about the background noise?
W: Yes, somebody even made the comment "I'm hearing birds"
Nel: Before you redid the tests, people were commenting on the background tests?
Nel: So, why did you then to ensure that one has the some background noise, do both?
W: Firstly the door was broken to pieces, I am not a sound expert. I did not think it would make any difference. I got the cricket bat sound, I just needed the rapid gun sound.
W: I can only say, if I should have done it that way, it is a mistake on my side.
Nel: Before you redid the tests, would it have not been better to have the same background noise on both tests.
W: I am not sure my lady.
Nel: We refer to the equipment used, you don't know what it means?
Nel: Now, the other aspect, again Mr. Dickson's evidence, he was shown a photograph 315, do you see that piece of paper?
Nel: You can clearly see that it is propellant on the paper?
W: I can see it is gun shot residue.
W: When I saw that photo, I knew it was gun shot residue and not splintering from the door.
Nel: I am dealing with the wound to the back and the striations on the wound. And again one aspect that I agree with you is that the magazine rack could not have caused the striations?
Nel: I just have to put to you that you are contradicting Prof. Botha. You don't agree with that?
W: Again, I have worked with both of them, Prof Saayman and Prof Botha, I don't think Prof. Botha is a tool mark examiner.
Nel: You say you don't agree and you are right.
W: I don't know where because it is a very smooth surface my lady.
Nel: We asked you on Friday if you met with Mr. Dickson after his evidence and you said you did at the IPA?
W: The day after he testified, I did meet with him.
Nel: Was there a meeting at a restaurant Jocks?
W: Yes, my lady I can remember a meeting at Jocks and we had a dinner meeting. Might have been lunch but I can remember a dinner meeting.
W: I can still remember I wanted Pork chops and they didn't have it, we both had T-bone.
Nel: Impressive that you can remember that.
W: It would be abnormal that I would not discuss the case.
Nel: So after he gave evidence you then discussed the case.
Nel: Can you still remember the discussion on the 26 March 2014?
W: I can't remember what all we discussed.
Nel: That is fine. After your experiment after the 8 November, at least the following happened; bulle thole A hit the deceased on the right hip?
W: After that. The day after that.
Nel: In your notes that you would have given the defense, are you happy that she was standing upright and bullet A hit her right hip?
W: Yes, a little bit bent over but yes.
Nel: After that you didn't have a specific view on where the other bullets hit her?
Nel: Now, unfortunately we have to rehash certain things from Friday. You said that there might have been deflection on B?
W: That is right my lady.
W: She must have fallen with her right hip completely destroyed, She must have been, all depends where her left foot was when she was falling.