Nel: If someone even in anger kills his partner, but just after that he is capable of general remorse.
Nel: In a fit of rage you kill your partner and then after you have real deep remorse.
Nel: Now the, also interesting is that the way you framed your last sentence. He is certainly remorseful about the events.
V: He is remorseful about killing her.
Nel: Did he say he is sorry that he caused her death?
V: There is a legal difference, he is aware that he fired the shots that caused her death.
Nel: Now, I know from past experience that you have testified before in matters. Let's say he acted automatically, you would look for events leading up to the shooting and afterwards.
V: Yes, there is no question in my mind that there is history that he gave of emotional stress following an argument. His reaction is appropriate.
Nel: The accused told you he heard a noise and armed himself and then approached the noise.
Nel: So he must have for seen the possability that he would have to shot.
Nel: Just by that we know that, so you agree that he for saw the possability that he might have to shot.
Nel: The fact that he suffered from GAD or that he was anxious, did you follow the evidence about him not finding out if Reeva was still in bed?
V: My lady, I did not follow the court proceedings, but those situations would have to be put to me.
Nel: I think you put it best, more likely to respond to a fight response then a flight response.
V: That relates to his nature.
Nel: That made me realise that if we have a person suffering from GAD with a personality with a fight response then a flight response. That is a danger.
V: Not my evidence my lady, because he has the fight response but one has the added ability that one has to fight and not run away.
Nel: One goes further, he was on his stumps, armed himself and walked five meters turned right another 2 meters on his stumps, whereas him and Reeva could have escaped without approaching danger.
V: Some people do that, he could not have run away. He is not mobile on his stumps.
Nel: He could have, but what you just said. Some one with GAD and a gun in his hand is a danger.
Nel: One interesting aspect that I picked up, is in the way they described GAD mentioned in page 223.
Nel: They also experience sweating , nausea. So that one shouldn't really relate to him feeling remorse.
V: Certainly one would expert in this degree. What I saw was real remorse.
Nel: You included aspect of sentence and merit in that respect.
V: He is suffering from depression.
Nel: As far as the incident is concerned, the court can't take that into account?
V: No, he is currently depressed and is being treated. He often said he felt guilty about RS death.
Nel: Have you had access to the docket?
Nel: What did you have access to in terms of the version of what happened?
Nel: You relied on what he gave you?
Nel: You weren't able to refer the accused for any other tests?
V: No, I had available to me another, I didn't have any other direct report that I had received.
Nel: During your interviews with him, did the case form any type of discussion on what might happen to him.
Nel: So, the accused feels guilty that he caused RS death and is remorseful about it. It wanted to shoot an intruder?
V: That is what he told me.
Nel: He had deep remorse because he shot RS and not an intruder.