Nel: Everyday we are able to identify the difference?
Nel: In our daily lives, we hear a scream and we can identify who screamed?
Lin: All considered as common sense.
Nel: Am I right in saying it is common sense that we are able to identify a female or amle voice?
Nel: Then, at paragraph 5.9, you identified a typical human scream is between 100 and 120dba.
Nel: On the states version the deceased scream was an abnormal scream. Would you not put it closer to 120dba?
Lin: 120 means extremely loud, you can almost hear it 100meters away. It is a very slight possibility, but it is possible.
Lin: It is not for me to say yes or no.
Nel: You cannot say if she screamed at 120dba?
Nel: If we take that 10 difference between the state and you. Then that brings us to source toilet, in the bedroom with the window open to at least 30?
Lin: It is possibly audible and intelligible, but on a lower side.
Nel: I appreciate that concession.
Lin: There is a difference between sound power and sound energy.
Nel: The level of the sound is audible, because of the hard surface.
Lin: It is possible but it is quite difficult to quantify.
Nel: Let us not go there.
Nel: You are the expert, I am trying to make my way through this.
Lin: The minimum amount of resistance is the window.
Nel: Where would you put the db of the pistol being fired?
Lin: I am not sure what you are saying.
Lin: I have no knowledge of the gunpowder effects. This is not the question that I know how to answer.
Nel: You are the expert, just to take this further. The db of a gunshot would be higher than that of a human voice?
Nel: When we get to the listener, it would still be higher than that of a voice?
Lin: It would be different to the voice.
Nel: The db would be difference.
Lin: In the simple terms, yes.
Nel: I think what we are all trying to understand is difficult.
Nel: The fact that we are dealing with a scream, would you concede that a woman's voice, her scream would be higher?
Lin: You are asking me to answer on this important scream.
Lin: It is commonly known that it is higher in pitch.
Nel: Almost like a music note?
Lin: I am not sure how you are comparing it to a music note.