Nel: Do you know Arnu Fourie?
Nel: Are far you know there were only three noises the night of the incident?
Nel: The fact that it was a magazine rack, where did you get that from?
Nel: He told you that it was the magazines rack that moved?
Nel: he never discribed that sound in any other way, the last sound?
Nel: Is that not important to you in your line of expertise?
WD: I wanted to know what his response was to those sounds.
Nel: Did you not want to know what they were?
WD: It was not my main focus.
WD: I cannot recall how he described it.
Nel: What did he describe to you?
Nel: How did he come to that sound of a magazine rack?
Nel: Let us deal with your discussions. You say that the accused said it was made from the magazine rack. How did he describe it?
WD: That is what he told me.
Nel: It will become important to me later. He heard a sound, what sound does a magazine rack make?
WD: I really do not know. It was a sound that startled him.
Nel: You see, a magazine rack in itself will not make a sound? So, what caused it to make a sound?
WD: I cannot recall him telling me that he told me. I assume it was somebody.
Nel: So if it was a long sound or a short sound, it didn't make a difference to you?
WD: No, I can recall it startled him.
Nel: You can recall it startled him but not what he thought the sound was. Don't you think?
Nel: But the shot to kill someone.
WD: I cannot interpret what he heard.
Nel: What about the sound startled him?
WD: I understand but I do not recall.
WD: The sound itself startled him.
Nel: He never told you what he thought caused the sound? Except that it was the magazine rack.
WD: The only things I could have asked him about the sound, was the duration, the intensity.
Nel: I am repeating a question. Did he ever tell you about the sound made by the magazine rack?
WD: Sir, all he told me was it was the magazine rack.
Nel: Two things there. The court told you to address the court and not me.
WD: I am addressing the court.
Nel: If he said he saw the door opening, you would have remembered that?
WD: My lady I was very focused to the sounds and the startles. That is not why I am here.
Nel: You see that is why I am surprised that you are here. If he said to you that he saw the door opening, you would have remembered that? It would have been very important?