Nel: Infact he said nothing about the toilet door?
WD: He said that he heard the toilet door closing.
Nel: We are at the third noise, the magazine rack. There was no other noise after that?
Nel: The third sound, if he said it was caused by the toilet door. You would have remembered that?
Nel: Whilst we are dealing with sounds. Do you know that the accused would go to the shooting range and shoot?
Nel: Those sounds would not startle him, would they?
WD: My lady, if one is expecting a sound then one would not be startled by that sound.
Nel: Good, I am standing in the bathroom. I think there is someone behind the toilet door. A sound would not startle me.
WD: You would still be startled by a sound.
Nel: If you expect a sound on the shooting range, then a startle would not be expected, if you are shooting.
Nel: You said you are expecting a sound and would not be startled by it.
WD: My lady, in terms of the science. What we spoke about there is a sound is used as the main sound for the startle response.
WD: They use a pad to give an electric shock. They actually show different signs on a screen. The person will know that they will get a shock when a certain sign is on the screen.
WD: The study shows that when you are expecting a sound, even though there can be an expectiaton of a sound. It does still startle a person.
Nel: He is hyper aware because of the second startle. He is expecting a sound, so the startle would not have an effect on him.
WD: My lady, with respect Mr. Nel has got it wrong. It is the opposite.
Nel: But I am more aware of what is going on around.
Nel: The shots at the shooting range would not always startle him. Is that possible?
WD: Of course, if he was not expecting it.
Nel: And also you don't know if he was alone or if other people were with him?
Nel: The anxiety that we discussed in the report and that you testified about. When you tested the accused on his level of anxiety, it was in his training?
Nel: You did not do any tests after the incident?
WD: No I did not do any tests.
Nel: So if somebody scores high on the tests during the athletic season, then he has anxiety?
WD: His levels were higher than any body elses' levels.
Nel: On the night in question, you know what happened when he got home from Johannesburg?
WD: My lady, I do not have knowledge of that.
Nel: If I tell you that the evidence was that it was a very nice relaxing evening and he wasn;t anxious until he fell asleep.
Nel: We know that before he went to sleep he wasn't anxious?
WD: No that I am aware of.
Nel: Did you do any tests on the accused?
Nel: You used historical information.
Nel: Paragraph 50 of your report.
Nel: You described OP that he presented with anxiety, added with fear. He is hyper sensitive. Is he danger to society then because he is capable to kill someone?
WD: My lady, I cannot make that statement.