Court has started for day 9.
Judge: You are still under oath?
Roux: My lady, undertook yesterday to show you some photographs. I have marked them accordingly. First one is AA, the second one, my lady. Also the door with the boot print on. I apologise they made black and white copies. I will today make colour copies for you, my lady.
Judge: Thank-you very much.
Roux: Colonel, would you be prepared to make your telephone record available to us, from when you left court yesterday and then this morning?
Vermeulen: I will, my lady.
Roux: You are in the material analysis department?
Roux: Your experience in the case analysis section?
Vermeulen: I do have experience, I helped them set up the section.
Roux: I was looking at your qualifications regarding to trace elements. Can you tell the court what that is?
Vermeulen: Can I refer make to my affidavit?
Vermeulen: I did paint and fibre analysis. I did explosive analysis.
Roux: I am looking at courses and qualifications. How long it was, where it was?
Vermeulen: My lady, If I can look at my affidavit. Fire investigation is also a trace element analysis. I attended a trace evidence course, a week long course.
Roux: I accept that you know the works by Stuwart James Norton?
Vermeulen: I am not aware, my lady.
Roux: Can I then say you did a micro-scopic course on tool markings?
Vermeulen: My lady, I never claimed that I am a tool-marker expert.
Roux: When we spoke yesterday about the wooden missing pieces. Yiu said that it could have shared more light?
Vermeulen: Yes, my lady. As I explained yesterday, I cannot remember to who I spoke. I could not determine the location of the missing pieces.
Roux: You even said that you went to the SAP register to find the missing pieces?
Vermeulen: My lady, I never said that I went to the SAP register.
Roux: Surely, some-one must have gone and checked in the SAP file 13?
Vermeulen: No, my lady. I am not sure if any-one went to check the file 13.
Roux: It cannot be that with respect for you to have stated under oath, that no where that the exhibits did not appear in the file 13?
Vermeulen: What I meant yesterday, was during the conversations that I had. That I could not find any information regarding the location of them.
Roux: You said that you tried to find out what had happened to those splinters. Do you remember who you spoke to you?
Vermeulen: My lady, I cannot remember who I spoke to at that moment.
Roux: We know it was on the 30 April 2013, that you tried to find out about the missing pieces.
Vermeulen: My lady, it would be very difficult for me. I cannot remember who I spoke to.
Roux: Can you remember who you spoke to?
Vermeulen: My lady, I honestly cannot remember who I spoke to, it could have been the photographer.
Roux: We are only dealing with the 30 April 2013, when you asked for it as you knew you had to examine it?
Vermeulen: My lady, I can really not remember.
Vermeulen: It could have shared some light, my lady. But I was happy with my investigation.
Vermeulen: I said a lot yesterday, but it was not necessary for me to have those pieces.
Vermeulen: My lady, like I said yesterday, I do not know who I spoke to or on what day, I asked about the missing pieces.
Roux: We know that, that is the day that you examined the door and that you asked for the missing pieces?
Vermeulen: That is correct, my lady.
Roux: Let's look at who was there and who you could have asked.
Vermeuklen: Yes, my lady.
Roux: You could have asked Mr. Mongena?