Roux: My lady, I am trying not to waste the time. Maybe I can carry on after the adjournment for tea.
Judge: You are still under oath.
Roux: You said that you would go to your office and go through cases that dealt with wood?
Vermeulen: Yes, I did my lady. Unfortunately we left here late and the offices had already closed for the day. I would request that I have access to them today.
Roux: Yesterday you spoke about the panels of the door, they were loose or something?
Vermeulen: My lady the panels were more loose and not sturdy like they are now. They were not being held in place.
Roux: I want to give you a number, the youtube video. I would ask that you watch this. 9BMMEYM7JR0
Vermeulen: Can I repeat just to make sure? It is 9BMMEYM7JR0
Roux: Would you care to look at it some time?
Roux: I have no further questions, my lady.
Nel: Colonel, I will deal with 9 different issues. Starting with the door, there are pieces missing. Would that have impacted your findings of the marks?
Vermeulen: My lady, that did not impact my findings, that is why I was not too concerned about the missing pieces.
Nel: Below the mark, there are pieces missing. The mark that you described to the court.
Nel: You are right when you said the accused is taller than you. For you to hit the mark, it was uncomfortable?
Nel: Is there any damage t the door handle?
Vermeulen: I could pick up no damage to the door handle, my lady.
Nel: Let's deal with the demonstrations that you have done. The angles that you have done. Do you still stand by that, that must have been the angle?
Vermeulen: My lady, I still stand by that, that was the angle that the bat came too, in mark 2.
Nel: In 487, that was the angle that the bat was in when it hit the door?
Roux: My lady, I think it was put to the witness incorrectly. It is his opinion or his view.
Nel: I am so sorry. Every-thing I ask you is your opinion or view.
Vermeulen: That's correct, my lady. That's the angle that the bat when it hit the door.
Nel: You wanted to describe a new mark on the door.
Nel: You have the bat with you?
Vermeulen: Yes, my lady. There is a distinct red mark on the side of the bat, probably caused from the bat hitting the door. Similar to the other marks. It further confirms my version, my lady.
Judge: Can I just have a look?
Vermeulen: My lady, I just want you to have a look at the initial marks as well as the marks on the side.
Nel: Then Colonel, I want to ask you about the natural and unnatural position. The angle of the first hit and the second hit were they similar?
Vermeulen: They were my lady. It can be proven by the indentation on the bat.
Nel: The wedging would also have happened at an unnatural position?
Nel: Can you cause the same marks?
Vermeulen: No my lady, it is not possible to cause those marks at that unnatural position.
Nel: You said the bullet hole was there before the bat hit the door?
Nel: There was a long debate about the kicking. Do you know if the shot were before the kicking or after?